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Reply #1 - 06/02/08 at 20:57:50
 
The smaller  cans look like they would  replace the 1.25 gallon cans from Kolpin .  I would assume that the center slot is the same and you could mount them on the Kolpin rack . ( I hope )


Is the dealer Tri City  or Full Throttle ?
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Reply #2 - 06/03/08 at 12:34:57
 
I found this product through google search. Ordered directly from their website. Contact is Jason Wallin. He was very helpful and replied via email on my order same day. I don't know if the product is made in Utah, I'll check and let you know. They are compatible with Koplin mounts.
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Reply #3 - 06/04/08 at 14:26:40
 
I have applied to be a dealer. I'll let everyone know when I can get them in stock.

Yes they tell me they fit the Koplin mounts and are working on making their own.
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Reply #4 - 06/04/08 at 19:48:08
 
These look to be thicker and stronger than the Kolpins . Do you  think so too ? After all the trouble that Kolpin has had with their new and improved design these units look  to be a good alternative .
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Reply #5 - 06/04/08 at 21:28:22
 
These packs are heavy duty and will support up to 800lbs. (stated by manufacture) When I purchase atv products quality construction is my number one requirement. If you like flat pack style gas cans these are the ones to get. Smiley
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Reply #6 - 06/05/08 at 21:14:54
 
I just put in an order for the RotoPax, which is the 2 ea. 2 gallon containers that snap together in the middle or can be used separately   I received an e-mail response within a couple of minutes and the gentleman said that since in live in Logan Ut I could save the $12 shipping and just pick it up from the place where they are made. I said that would be great, located about 1 mile from my home. He e-mailed back and said the RotoPaxs were about two weeks from being completed but that he would e-mail when they were ready. By the way, he refunded the shipping charge within the next few minutes, now thats service. I hope the product is as good as their service. They did have the Expedition One Fuel Packs in stock but I needed the smaller ones to fit on a small rack on my Renegade. I already have one of the Koplin 4 gallon ones that I use on my Outlander, and I guess I am one of the lucky few who has one that doesn't leak, used for several trips and not so much as a drip.
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Reply #7 - 06/06/08 at 05:52:12
 
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Can we get some close up pics ??please
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Reply #8 - 06/06/08 at 07:07:32
 
Just ordered mine.  I like having a full 2 gallons in a small pack.
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Reply #9 - 06/06/08 at 10:04:15
 
Freddy wrote on 06/06/08 at 05:52:12:
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The info on their web sight looks good. Kinda spendy when I already have 4 one gallons sys. made of inexpencive containers. That are only used on overnighters away from filling stations.
I allso have a Koplin fuel and water pack on each side of my rear box. I have regreted spending the $ for them. BUt they take a beating and the conveiniance and durability IMHO is worth the cost  of THIS sys. If your looking for a first time purchase for extra fuel.
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Reply #10 - 06/09/08 at 18:29:58
 
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Reply #11 - 07/04/08 at 20:18:17
 
I bought two 1-1/4 gal Koplin Fuel tanks and mounted them to my quad last week. This weekend I had the first chance to try them on the quad. Both of them leaked around the yellow cap...a real stream. It looks like others on the forum are having similar problems by all the emails. Has anybody come up a repair or is everyone returning them switching over to Rotopax?
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Reply #12 - 07/05/08 at 13:56:38
 
Those stupid yellow, self-venting, caps leak.  Period.

That's the way they're designed.  They are made to "vent".  Thus the name.

With a gas container on a moving vehicle like an ATV, the sloshing gas is gonna leak.  No 2 ways about it.

The older Kolpin gas jugs did not use this stupid yellow cap/spout.  They didn't leak.  They were made of heavier materiel as well.  Don't buy the new ones.

I'm going to try one of these new Rotopax gas containers.  I'm thinking they'll work great - just like the old Kolpin did.

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Reply #13 - 07/05/08 at 17:07:45
 
I agree, Kolpin used to have a great can that was not self venting.  I didn't have the flat paks, but I did have the Kolpin rack that held one of they're cans and it worked great.  I am really looking at the Rotopax.
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Reply #14 - 07/05/08 at 17:17:24
 
Thanks.  Just what I thought.  I am returning them Monday.
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Reply #15 - 07/05/08 at 20:13:45
 
Check out the Sportsmans Whearhouse in Sandy, they still have a supply ot the old style Koplin 3 & 1/2 gal flat packs at $79.95.  I haven't seen them any other place in a long time. :'(
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Reply #16 - 07/06/08 at 18:41:16
 
I just have to say something .....


I work with the public everyday , sometimes you can try your hardest and absolutely nothing will work right . You can't understand it , and don't try to , it's just the way it is . And it usually happens on the weekend when you have a family outing planned . That makes it so you can stew about the whole thing and have a terrible time . The whole time your wife is going " just forget about it and play with the kids ' . So you throw the ball but your mind is on something else .

I have the older Kolpin packs , two 1  1/25  packs and two 3 gallon packs and they work great . When they die I will  purchase  the Rotopax product . It looks like a good product and I know that Jason at least tried to make it right . That counts for a lot in my book .
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Reply #17 - 07/07/08 at 08:58:58
 
Got my RotoPaX from Jason on Wednesday, picked it up from the manufacturing plant here in Logan. It seems to be a high quality unit, didn't get a chance to try it out over the weekend but plan to give it a try on my next outing. I got the twin unit so I could split it up for use on my Renegade which has a small rack. I have included some pics of it and one of the Koplin units for comparison. I have  been satisfied with the Koplin, no leaks at all   over the past two riding seasons, but I needed to smaller 2 gallon flat pack for my Renegade.
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Reply #27 - 07/07/08 at 11:38:04
 
The fuel packs look really nice and durable.  Would love to have the 4 gallon pack but I can't justify spending $80 for a gas can just as I couldn't on the Kolpin.  Guess I'll just have to continue strapping my 5 gallon can to my racks like in the past and haven't had a problem doing that yet.   Sad
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Reply #28 - 07/07/08 at 15:54:21
 
I would like publicly apologize to Jason.  I honestly believe he did everything he could to get the product to me before my trip to Moab.  It was what he thought; someone on his team pulled a bad one.  As I stated to Jason in a personal e-mail, I work as a manager for a shipping department and I know how it feels when the customer doesnt get the right product or the product at all. So with all my sincerity Jason, I apologize and look foreword to using your product.  (Its got to be better than this Koplin Ive got)
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Reply #29 - 07/07/08 at 16:59:02
 
Thanks for posting the photos of the RotopaX!  Just a few things I would like to make clear.

 We were the manufacturer of the Gen 1 Kolpin Fuel Pack (Originally Pioneer Products) that is shown in the photos and this new RotopaX utilizes the same spout set up.  

(This is most likely why there has not been a leak issue.)  

#2 The shown aluminum clips work very well, in fact so well that you must lever them off rather than pull them off with your finger.  
We are just finishing up tooling for the plastic clip that will replace the temporary aluminum ones shown.  They will be flat thru the area where you put your finger and have the teeth on each side to lock onto the product.

#3 We are working on putting together our CARB compliant spouts that will have to be used on ALL gas containers sold after January of 2009.  We are trying to get this done as soon as possible to pick up on the sales we are loosing to the 10 or so states that now require them.  Most people here in Utah have not even had to try to use one yet but they are not fun to use.  I would suggest if you plan to purchase a fuel container in the next few years do it now to get away without having to purchase one that is difficult to use.

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Reply #30 - 07/08/08 at 22:22:04
 
I was very impressed with the Fuel Pack. Jason delivered mine to me directly at my work and I was able to use it on my trip to Moab over Memorial Day weekend. I rode with for 280 miles and it held up great. I even slid it into some rocks and it held up great. No leaks at all. I did use a ratchet strap to secure it to the front rack. I did not feel the velcro was secure enough for the bouncing around we were doing.

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Another satisfied customer, went for about an 85 mile ride the other day, not a single drop leaked out, very well made. Thanks Jason.
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Reply #32 - 07/17/08 at 07:52:30
 
ATVUtah is now a dealer for the RotopaX Fuel Packs.

I now have them in the shopping cart and in stock ready to ship.
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Reply #33 - 08/19/09 at 22:48:06
 
While rereading this thread about how Rotopax was going to have to update their spouts to be compliant w/new gov't standards by Jan. of 2009, Jason at the company makes it sound like the new spouts are crappy to deal with.  Has anyone used the new spouts that is willing to sound off in support or lack thereof?  What was the big change?  Since ATVUTAH is a dealer, I'm assuming they're not too bad, just looking for an update.  Thanks for any info!

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Reply #34 - 08/20/09 at 05:57:47
 
While not a Rotopax, I have the new Kolpin with the "new" spout. Two weeks ago, while fueling up my sons Honda, I go to push the spout against the lip of the fuel inlet (because you have to collapse the spring on the spout for fuel to come out) and the entire spout collapsed, dropping parts of the spout into the tank and just broke.

Called Kolpin and they'll send a new spout for free, but what a crappy design.

I prefer my older style Kolpin.. no leaks, no hassle to fuel up.

If RotoPax goes to the same design as Kolpin, we're all screwed. I was going to order a Roto-Pax but was concerned about this stupid spouting issue.

..now, how to get pieces of plastic out of the Honda's fuel tank!
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Reply #35 - 08/20/09 at 15:50:11
 
BruteForce wrote on 08/20/09 at 05:57:47:
While not a Rotopax, I have the new Kolpin with the "new" spout. Two weeks ago, while fueling up my sons Honda, I go to push the spout against the lip of the fuel inlet (because you have to collapse the spring on the spout for fuel to come out) and the entire spout collapsed, dropping parts of the spout into the tank and just broke.

Called Kolpin and they'll send a new spout for free, but what a crappy design.

I prefer my older style Kolpin.. no leaks, no hassle to fuel up.

If RotoPax goes to the same design as Kolpin, we're all screwed. I was going to order a Roto-Pax but was concerned about this stupid spouting issue.

..now, how to get pieces of plastic out of the Honda's fuel tank!


Was it big pieces or little or both.  If they are little pieces pull your fuel lines off the carb and drain the tank, then flush the tank with zylene before refilling it.
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Reply #36 - 08/20/09 at 17:19:32
 
taccom wrote on 08/20/09 at 15:50:11:
Was it big pieces or little or both. If they are little pieces pull your fuel lines off the carb and drain the tank, then flush the tank with zylene before refilling it.


Seemed like fairly sizable parts. Too large to get through a fuel line/filter (I don't think there is one).

Provided the plastic doesn't disintegrate over time in the fuel, I'm thinking about ignoring it.. Just hoping it doesn't clog something up by getting sucked up against the carb intake.
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Reply #37 - 08/20/09 at 22:22:00
 
RotopaX is being forced by government regulations to sell the cans with the new EPA approved piece of crap spout. HOWEVER take heart Jason designed the can to also use the same spout as his water pack cans Cheesy

SO we will be offering those spouts as "replacement" spouts. How you use it once you buy it is not our concern, hint hint.....

The Water can spout is very similar to the old style spouts. It just has a built in vent to help the ummm.. water Wink (wink wink nudge nudge) pour out of the non-vented cans faster.

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This is the EPA approved CARB compliant spout they are being forced to ship with the cans and they are crap but leave it to the government to force us to pay for this crap. RotopaX hates having to include it with the can as much as we hate using them.
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Re: fuel packs
Reply #38 - 08/21/09 at 00:00:22
 
BruteForce wrote on 08/20/09 at 17:19:32:
taccom wrote on 08/20/09 at 15:50:11:
Was it big pieces or little or both. If they are little pieces pull your fuel lines off the carb and drain the tank, then flush the tank with zylene before refilling it.


Seemed like fairly sizable parts. Too large to get through a fuel line/filter (I don't think there is one).

Provided the plastic doesn't disintegrate over time in the fuel, I'm thinking about ignoring it.. Just hoping it doesn't clog something up by getting sucked up against the carb intake.


Try some acetone on the remainder of your broken spout, if it disolves it, might be a good way to flush your Honda's metal tank out with.  Other than using a vacumn, in which case you need to let the fuel in the tank completely dry out and evaporate before using an electrical appliance on a fuel source or else things could get awefully hot at the Brute Lodge Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Re: fuel packs
Reply #39 - 08/21/09 at 10:29:19
 
I just got 2 new 1 gallon jugs in last week. I like them much better than the new style Kolpin. Mine came with the yellow spout that you have pictured. When does the new law take effect concerning the new spout?

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Reply #40 - 10/25/09 at 23:11:10
 
I have the Rotopax, purchased in August 09. Used it repeatedly on our vacvation on the Puite. It came with the non-epa spout, yeah. I live in the communist state of california and have other fuel containers w/ both the pictured yellow and black spouts. Trust me the yellow spout is the best. The black one spills too much fuel. My current spout didn't leak and I believe the product has a great design for carring on a quad.
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