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Get Your Comments IN Glenn Canyon Recreation Area
11/15/10 at 08:11:06

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O.K. Here we go again. We need everyone that can to comment on the plann for OHV/ATV in Glenn Canyon recreation area. Comments need to be in by the 24th of this month. So you need to get on it FAST.

As for me I am not impressed with any of the alternatives. If I had to choose one it would be Alternative D, none of these alternatives address routes like the Flint Trail from Hite crossing to Hans Flat or sunsine pass to Hatch Canyon going to the Dirty Devel river. To do most routes in the recreation area you would need a Street Legal ATV, that locks a lot of people out.

�The National Park Service is currently scoping alternatives for an environmental impact statement to assess the management of off-road vehicle (ORV) use at Glen Canyon National Recreation Area.

The ORV Vehicle Management Plan / Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) will evaluate a range of alternatives associated with recreational ORV use at Glen Canyon and their environmental impacts. Currently, off-road driving occurs at several of Glen Canyon's accessible shorelines and at Lone Rock Beach. Off-road driving in these locations allows the public to leave the designated road and drive to Lake Powell's shoreline to fish, camp, picnic, boat, or engage in other recreational activities. In addition, the EIS will evaluate the existing high intensity ORV use at Lone Rock Beach Play Area, all-terrain vehicle travel on park roads, and ORV use at the Ferry Swale area.

Public alternatives scoping is an integral step of the environmental planning process. Public scoping is used to identify any other possible alternatives, issues, and areas of public interest that may require specific analysis in the environmental planning process.

Your comments, input, and advice are valuable to us. Please submit your comments using the links to the left.

Thank you.

Contact Information
Joe David, Glen Canyon NRA, Environmental Protection Specialist, 928-608-6337�

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Reply #1 - 11/16/10 at 16:54:00

I just left my comment. What a frustrating process.. having to constantly justify keeping a recreation area open to ORV/ATV users.

Who provides the majority funding to these parks and surrounding communities? Do bikers or hikers have any skin in the game, or provide any substantial financing (via taxes, fuel purchases, hotel or RV park accommodations, etc)?

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Reply #2 - 11/22/10 at 10:56:15

Everyone,
We need to get our comments in. You need to get them in the mail cannot get the links on there web site to allow you to do it electronicly.
here is a copy of our comments cut paste change what makes it from you but get ur Done!!!!!

PUBLIC LANDS EQUAL ACCESS ALLIANCE
P.O. Box 87
Springville, Utah 84663

Superintendent
Glen Canyon National Recreation Area
Re: ORV Management Plan/EIS
P.O. Box 1507
Page, Arizona 86040

Dear Superintendent
Public Lands Equal Access Alliance supports the �idea� if the Glen Canyon National Recreation Area (GCNRA) Off-Road Vehicle Management Plan/Environmental Impact Statement. We would support ORV Management Alternative D: Mixed Use, with a few additions. This proposal offers the best starting point for building the final action for the management of motorized vehicle travel in the Glen Canyon National Recreation Area.

Issues needing further clarification

1. This is stated as an �Off-Road Vehicle Management Plan�; We feel that not allowing off-road vehicles in the Glen Canyon National Recreation in all of the alternatives is very deceiving. Limiting only street legal Atv�s to a few routes only is not management. We would like to see non-street legal ATV�s Side by side�s and OHM�s allowed on the non paved routes in the GCNRA.
2. In all the alternatives, most all non-paved routes are Open to conventional vehicles only; This will put a very heavy burden on the GCNRA to bring these routes up to a standard of quality and to maintain these routes to a level where conventional vehicles can access them and the areas of interest they allow the public to recreate in.
3. In this plan there is no definition to what a Conventional Vehicle is. I searched the Internet for a definition and found the following: Conventional Vehicle: is a type of vehicle which combines a conventional internal combustion engine or an electric propulsion system or a combanation of propulsoion systems. A variety of types of CV�s exist, and the degree to which they function as CV�s varies as well. The most common form of CV is the car, although trucks (pickups and tractors), buses, motorcycles, a viritary of Off-road vehicle�s also exist. What makes a vehicle Conventional is that it meets a uniform standard of operation, controls and safety. It is designed to allow operation in a realative like maner to allow operators to generaly go from one to another. Conventional vehicles are car, truck, motorcycle, tractor, ATV, small utility equipment (SideX Side, garden tractor).

Proposal

We propose that Glen Canyon Recreation Area, open to ATV�s non-street legal and street legal the following route, Flint Trail from Hite crossing to Hans Flat route 633, Sunshine pass to Hatch Canyon going to the Dirty Devil River route 730. Route 731 to the big Ridge, route 763 to Panorama Point, routes 774/775 to Cleopatra�s Chair, route 450 Hole in the Rock Trail, route 330 Hole in the rock trail, Route 777 Orange Cliffs, and route 651 Blue Notch Canyon. These routes are in areas that the terrain requires that you stay on the route. These routes are not passable by most vehicles. Most of these routes are in areas that are remote and are very hard to maintain. Please do not try to ban the public from accessing the great scenic and historic areas that have been placed in your care.

We have found that in this Planning and Scooping process that the management of the Glen Canyon National Recreation area has NOT worked with the OHV section of the State of Utah or involved the OHV clubs, organizations and public community. This plan does not appear to be an Off-Road Vehicle Management Plan but an Off-road vehicle elimination plan. Glen Canyon is a National Recreation area; Off-road vehicles are a legitimate form of recreation on public lands.

If you have any questions or would like to speak to us, please feel free to contact us.
Thank you for this opportunity to be involved in this process and having our concerns addressed.
Dale Bartholomew

Public Lands Equal Access Alliance
President: Dale Bartholomew
P.O. Box 87
Springville, Utah 84663

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Upson Downs Aristocrat Offline Posts: 733 Sandy, UT Gender:	Re: Get Your Comments IN Glenn Canyon Recreation A Reply #3 - 11/22/10 at 12:05:28 My wife and I both filled out comment notices on the NPS site. �Among several issues we pointed out, we really emphasized the importance of allowing ALL ATVs and not just street legal ones to have full access to the GCNRA. We hope others will take the time to give the NPS their views.
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